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Re: Unexplained electrical outage [Re: code_ceis] #950312
01/07/19 07:16 PM
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Code - Are you suggesting there are two separate issues?

Amy - Can you confirm if you have a three or a four prong plug for your range?

Re: Unexplained electrical outage [Re: CabinConnection] #950315
01/07/19 07:26 PM
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If I remember correctly, it's 3.
I remember there was a black, a white, and a red coated wire as well as an uncoated copper wire.

Re: Unexplained electrical outage [Re: code_ceis] #950316
01/07/19 07:32 PM
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When you say loose wire for the light circuit, are you meaning the room lights and not lights on the range?

There are 2 ceiling fan/lights units in this room, one of them tends to flicker at times.

Re: Unexplained electrical outage [Re: AmyB] #950317
01/07/19 07:35 PM
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Amy - Hard to read the labels on your panel. Are ALL affected circuits on the right side?

Re: Unexplained electrical outage [Re: CabinConnection] #950320
01/07/19 07:44 PM
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oh, that's a good question.
(I had to rely on my teenager to take this pic, so that's why it's not the greatest)

trying to get another more clear one sent now.

it's looks like they may actually all be on that right side, can't say 100% since like you I really can't see the other labels well.

Re: Unexplained electrical outage [Re: AmyB] #950325
01/07/19 08:14 PM
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looking at the pic again, I'm pretty sure I see the fridge on the left just over and above from the range.

Re: Unexplained electrical outage [Re: CabinConnection] #950338
01/08/19 02:15 AM
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Code - Are you suggesting there are two separate issues?


No just that a loose neutral may not have a path back the main panel.

So it will look for another path.

The ground in the stove is bonded to the neutral in the panel.

A neutral may be regounded in this house. It may be where some one replaced a two wire receptacle with a grounded receptacle. To make it look good to the home inspector or just because they thought it was a good idea they put a jumper from the ground to the neutral. It looks good to a three light tester.

It makes circular path for the electrons trying to get home to where they came from.

Electrons will take all paths available not just the easiest one.

It may be the case where it works when a specific appliance is on and running like a fan or night light even.


Remember each side is not one phase.

1,3,5,7 rows etc. are one phase

the even breakers are the other.

Just spent two hours each way driving for a 1 hour board meeting. crazy


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