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Re: Hurricane Michael [Re: Able_Dog] #946008
10/11/18 04:13 PM
10/11/18 04:13 PM
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Quote:
The little <500 square ft apt (frame) I built had over $400 worth of straps and ties.


Wind is the hardest to build to.


The after effect on standing buildings may now be refereed to as "shaken House syndrome"

The wind shakes the house so bad it loosens it up but it is still standing.

Next big blow finishes it.

Power restoration looks to take a few weeks at the earliest in some areas.


"I have studied many philosophers and many cats. The wisdom of cats is infinitely superior." - Hippolyte Taine

Do not be a Monday. No one likes Mondays.

Re: Hurricane Michael [Re: JasonB] #946023
10/11/18 08:17 PM
10/11/18 08:17 PM
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Huntsville AL
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I remember the pictures in the Sunday paper of Homestead Florida after hurricane Andrew, it looked like a war zone that had been totally bombed, Mexico Beach and Panama City Beach look pretty much the same. Hard to imagine what those poor people are going through and will be going through in the coming months.

Talk about your life being turned upside down.

Re: Hurricane Michael [Re: Able_Dog] #946037
10/12/18 04:41 AM
10/12/18 04:41 AM
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I cannot begin to imagine. I would never live on the coast. Frankly, any coast. Or in Kansas or in oh my... so many places. Cable still down battery running out just wanted to jump in for a minute I have no idea what has happened 2 hours south of me.


Re: Hurricane Michael [Re: Able_Dog] #946051
10/12/18 02:34 PM
10/12/18 02:34 PM
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Still messing up other states five more deaths in Virginia(?). Saw severe flooding in Roanoke VA where I stayed Sunday night. What a massive restoration required.

Mexico Beach will be totally cleared and almost vacant land before they start rebuilding.

Yes, you can build on the beach to withstand a storm like that.
I remember talking to a Mexican who had a roofing crew doing my neighbor's house in Florida, about 20 years ago. He said if the houses here were built like his they could survive a hurricane. He told me, his house was poured concrete walls reinforce with rebar and the rebar extended over the wall and angled to the roof, every four feet and the roof was poured concrete reinforced with rebar tied to the wall rebar.

If the floor system was reinforced concrete floor panels set on concrete piers, you'd be all set. You would then need storm panels to cover the windows.

Re: Hurricane Michael [Re: Able_Dog] #946061
10/12/18 04:16 PM
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Ahhh, but does that solve the huge storm surge? Yes, the house would survive, (maybe) but what about all that power from 8-10' of water.


Yeah I've got O.C.D. Old, cranky, and dangerous.

Everything will kill you, so choose something fun!
Re: Hurricane Michael [Re: Able_Dog] #946065
10/12/18 04:50 PM
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Cape Spencer, New Brunswick, C...
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Nothing, save elevating the building above expected storm surges, will protect from it. For instance, my parent's place in southwest Fl. has its floor level at some 12ish feet above normal high tide, to accommodate storm surges. The current code is, IIRC, some 6" higher than theirs is built, which caused some permitting issues with recent renos in the wake of Irma.

J


er, somethin'....
Re: Hurricane Michael [Re: JasonB] #946252
10/16/18 05:20 PM
10/16/18 05:20 PM
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Huntsville AL
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This place in pristine condition when all around it destroyed by wind. I think they are going to study this one. Owners were on TV this AM, said they built it to with stand 240-250 mph, Requirements called for by code were 125 mph

House

Re: Hurricane Michael [Re: Able_Dog] #946254
10/16/18 05:36 PM
10/16/18 05:36 PM
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The Indianhead's Left Nostril....
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Read about that house a few days ago. Debate if the owner spent an additional $30k or $100k to raise the hurricane-proof level to where it is now. Also read how it had "tear away" steps so that when they went, it didn't do much damage to the house. House has an elevator that was "undamaged", but IIRC there were some broken windows, a few siding issues, and some minor interior water damage.



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