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#937123 - 04/15/18 10:23 PM Re: Political Thread [Re: Able_Dog]
Able_Dog Offline
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There are reports now that Mueller has evidence that Michael Cohen was in Prague. If that's true, it is a blockbuster. Probably the main thing that discredits the report as being inaccurate. Cohen presented his passport that shows no record of having been to Prague but he could have entered through Germany then to Prague where a passport would not be required. To say this would be a huge discovery would be an understatement.

Link

Quote:
WASHINGTON

The Justice Department special counsel has evidence that Donald Trump’s personal lawyer and confidant, Michael Cohen, secretly made a late-summer trip to Prague during the 2016 presidential campaign, according to two sources familiar with the matter.

Confirmation of the trip would lend credence to a retired British spy’s report that Cohen strategized there with a powerful Kremlin figure about Russian meddling in the U.S. election.

It would also be one of the most significant developments thus far in Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation of whether the Trump campaign and the Kremlin worked together to help Trump win the White House. Undercutting Trump’s repeated pronouncements that “there is no evidence of collusion,” it also could ratchet up the stakes if the president tries, as he has intimated he might for months, to order Mueller’s firing.

Trump’s threats to fire Mueller or the deputy attorney general overseeing the investigation, Rod Rosenstein, grew louder this week when the FBI raided Cohen’s home, hotel room and office on Monday. The raid was unrelated to the Trump-Russia collusion probe, but instead focused on payments made to women who have said they had sexual relationships with Trump.


Cohen has vehemently denied for months that he ever has been in Prague or colluded with Russia during the campaign. Neither he nor his lawyer responded to requests for comment for this story.

It’s unclear whether Mueller’s investigators also have evidence that Cohen actually met with a prominent Russian – purportedly Konstantin Kosachev, an ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin — in the Czech capital. Kosachev, who chairs the Foreign Affairs Committee of a body of the Russian legislature, the Federation Council, also has denied visiting Prague during 2016. Earlier this month, Kosachev was among 24 high-profile Russians hit with stiff U.S. sanctions in retaliation for Russia’s meddling.

But investigators have traced evidence that Cohen entered the Czech Republic through Germany, apparently during August or early September of 2016 as the ex-spy reported, said the sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is confidential. He wouldn’t have needed a passport for such a trip, because both countries are in the so-called Schengen Area in which 26 nations operate with open borders. The disclosure still left a puzzle: The sources did not say whether Cohen took a commercial flight or private jet to Europe, and gave no explanation as to why no record of such a trip has surfaced.

Peter Carr, a spokesman for Mueller’s office, declined comment.

Unconfirmed reports of a clandestine Prague meeting came to public attention in January 2017, with the publication of a dossier purporting to detail the Trump campaign’s interactions with Russia – a series of reports that former British MI6 officer Christopher Steele gathered from Kremlin sources for Trump’s political opponents, including Democrat Hillary Clinton’s campaign and the Democratic National Committee. Cohen’s alleged communications with the Russians were mentioned multiple times in Steele’s reports, which he ultimately shared with the FBI.

When the news site Buzzfeed published the entire dossier on Jan. 11, Trump denounced the news organization as “a failing pile of garbage” and said the document was “false and fake.” Cohen tweeted, “I have never been to Prague in my life. #fakenews.”

In the ensuing months, he allowed Buzzfeed to inspect his passport and tweeted: “The #Russian dossier is WRONG!”

Last August, an attorney for Cohen, Stephen Ryan, delivered to Congress a point-by-point rebuttal of the dossier’s allegations, stating: “Mr. Cohen is not aware of any ‘secret TRUMP campaign/Kremlin relationship.’”

However, Democratic investigators for the House and Senate Intelligence Committees, which are conducting parallel inquiries into Russia’s election interference, also are skeptical about whether Cohen was truthful about his 2016 travels to Europe when he was interviewed by the panels last October, two people familiar with those probes told McClatchy this week. Cohen has publicly acknowledged making three trips to Europe that year – to Italy in July, England in early October and a third after Trump’s November election. The investigators intend to press Cohen for more information, said the sources, who lacked authorization to speak for the record

One of the sources said congressional investigators have “a high level of interest” in Cohen’s European travel, with their doubts fueled by what they deem to be weak documentation Cohen has provided about his whereabouts around the time the Prague meeting was supposed to have occurred.

Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article208870264.html#storylink=cpy

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#937129 - 04/16/18 05:42 AM Re: Political Thread [Re: Able_Dog]
bilvihur Online   content
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From the BBC:
Quote:
Ex-FBI chief James Comey says Trump 'morally unfit to be president'

Mr Comey was giving his first major television interview since he was fired by President Trump last year.
He told ABC News that Mr Trump lies constantly and may have obstructed justice.
Mr Comey told ABC's 20/20 programme on Sunday night: "I don't buy this stuff about him being mentally incompetent or early stages of dementia."
"I don't think he's medically unfit to be president. I think he's morally unfit to be president.


It's what MOST of us knew already!
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#937133 - 04/16/18 08:07 AM Re: Political Thread [Re: Able_Dog]
Ernie Offline

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Registered: 08/01/01
Posts: 49282
Loc: Southern CA

On the laptop *sigh* and lost another take...
on the McClatchy Article crazy

Boy would CC love to be listening to grin
Kellyanne smirk and Chris smirk on CNN right now.. eek

How many times I have thought what if
Obama and Crew had come close to doing what we
have learned is TRUE thus far. I think Trump
supporters would have been throwing their arms
```` in the air SCREAMING !!! mad
Of course I always have questioned
where the view on morality in America comes from...

Quote:
GOP fundraiser Elliott Broidy‘s departure
follows reports that in 2017 President Donald Trump’s
attorney negotiated a $1.6 million payment on Broidy’s behalf
to a Playboy Playmate who said that Broidy had impregnated …


Good Old Parties / Powerful Men and Locker Room Talk..
And girls crazy just want to have fun $$$$$$$$$
~~~~ Troubling ? or Sorrowful ! Times ~~~ frown
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#937134 - 04/16/18 08:07 AM Re: Political Thread [Re: bilvihur]
JimTheTinkerer Offline
" Humming Bulb "
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Registered: 03/24/03
Posts: 22885
Loc: US
Originally Posted By bilvihur
From the BBC:
Quote:
Ex-FBI chief James Comey says Trump 'morally unfit to be president'

Mr Comey was giving his first major television interview since he was fired by President Trump last year.
He told ABC News that Mr Trump lies constantly and may have obstructed justice.
Mr Comey told ABC's 20/20 programme on Sunday night: "I don't buy this stuff about him being mentally incompetent or early stages of dementia."
"I don't think he's medically unfit to be president. I think he's morally unfit to be president.


It's what MOST of us knew already!



Which raises the possibility
that millions of people who support Trump
because they actually want the tactics
of lieing, cheating, betraying friends and family,
going back on your word, and violating binding contracts
and promises everyone has made before you.
As the quitting Republicans demonstrate,
Trump represents a personal moral corruption
and deceipt that goes well beyond things
like political parties, and even violates
the foundations of Democracy itself.

I really think honorable Republicans should
set up their own party, to show how real
Conservatives can be respectable and not a spectacle.
There is nothing to lose now, since the Trump Party
frequently violates what their factions supported.
REmember these?
Libertarianism, fiscal Conservatism, world respect...
...all this has been chucked for a cheap impulsive thug.

Where is the shame? Are we to live on all fours?


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#937135 - 04/16/18 08:28 AM Re: Political Thread [Re: JimTheTinkerer]
Ernie Offline

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Registered: 08/01/01
Posts: 49282
Loc: Southern CA
Sadly I think it's simply GREED !

Which raises the possibility
that millions of people who support Trump
because they actually want the tactics
of lieing, cheating, betraying friends and family,
going back on your word, and violating binding contracts
and promises everyone has made before you.

Greed.
Quote:
A greedy man stirs up strife,
but the one who trusts in the Lord will be enriched.

Keep your life free from love of money, and be content
with what you have, for he has said,
“I will never leave you nor forsake you.”

And he said to them, “Take care, and be on your guard
against all covetousness, for one's life does not consist
in the abundance of his possessions.”

Whoever is greedy for unjust gain troubles his own household,
but he who hates bribes will live.


The `Application to Ones Own Life...
``Reveals``` more of The Truth ```````
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#937141 - 04/16/18 09:43 AM Re: Political Thread [Re: Ernie]
Ernie Offline

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Registered: 08/01/01
Posts: 49282
Loc: Southern CA
Never forget that Trump loves conflict` mad
And those that say the atmosphere in the WH
is simply CHAOS - are those who watch and listen to
FAKE NEWS !
White House early on was and` still is`--------
`` Running like a Fine Tuned Machine ! ``` cool

You can trust Fox and Friends ! cool
And of course` you might also LIKE ! ` reading. wink
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#937143 - 04/16/18 09:51 AM Re: Political Thread [Re: Ernie]
Able_Dog Offline
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Registered: 12/07/03
Posts: 53425
Loc: So. Florida
"Never forget that Trump loves conflict"

I doubt he likes this conflict with Cohen who knows where all the bodies are buried. Looks like Cohen will be indicted sooner or later and depending on the charge(s) he may turn on Trump.

In court this AM to tell the judge who his clients are which his lawyers were unable to to after repeated requests by the judge on Friday.

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#937150 - 04/16/18 11:22 AM Re: Political Thread [Re: Able_Dog]
Ernie Offline

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Registered: 08/01/01
Posts: 49282
Loc: Southern CA
I seriously doubt
Cohen will turn on Trump
When Bannon suggested he was a leaker too
Quote:
"I'm the guy who stops the leaks.
I'm the guy who protects the president and the family.
I'm the guy who would take a bullet for the president . .
I told [Bannon] that before he comes here with his anger
and his conjectures, I strongly recommended he
think twice before doing it again."

During the interview, Cohen spoke at length about the
loyalty he has for Trump. He worked as an executive
vice president for the Trump Organization for several years.

"During the campaign, towards the end, I was offered
$10 million to write a tell-all book," Cohen said.
"I said, 'How about $100 million.' They asked if I'd do
it for that much, and I told them no, I just wanted
to see how high I could get them up and then say no.

There's no money in the world that
could get me to disclose anything about the Trump family."


```` "I'm the guy who would take a bullet
``` for the president."
`````````` “I'd never walk away,”


But if Cohen "really" is a devoted
father and family man ? himself , there's always
the chance he would have to come clean.
Cohen's emails that are now in custody
of the ongoing investigation , might be the bullet
``` he has to eat``` crazy

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#937159 - 04/16/18 02:07 PM Re: Political Thread [Re: Ernie]
Ernie Offline

Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 08/01/01
Posts: 49282
Loc: Southern CA
Fox News Reporter -Sean Hannity
is Cohen's third previously
unnamed client. confused
Say what ?
Was reading a whole BUNCH of stuff crazy
about the National Enquirer yesterday ``
No Wonder Trump Reads it wink and
`````` LIKES IT !!```````` smirk
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#937161 - 04/16/18 02:23 PM Re: Political Thread [Re: Ernie]
CabinConnection Offline
Bigfoot
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 01/20/04
Posts: 51846
Loc: The Indianhead's Left Nostril....
Heh... Watching the news too... They are all going, "WHAAAT?" shocked

And right now, my simple brain is asking, "So what?"

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