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#924857 - 10/12/17 11:14 AM Re: Political Thread [Re: Able_Dog]
Ernie Offline

Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 08/01/01
Posts: 48569
Loc: Southern CA
I too wondered about Rex Tillerson early on
because of his former ties with Russia. As you said
since he put on a different hat I felt he was the best
and still is the best man for the job ! Not because he
may have said something derogatory (truthful?) about Trump
but for the fact he's been trying to negotiate - working
on - communications - with Mattis- Kelly and others .
And he isn't just shooting`` off his mouth```...

Perhaps in playing to his base
it further adds to the confusion and chaos
he creates in making distractions -- which are
followed by the FAKE ? NEWS ``reactions ``--
in order to keep one simple focal point obscured ?

Tweeting half truths ? whistle
alternative facts? confused and plain out lies ! smirk
has worked thus far. His base seems to be sticking
firm to his method of operation. For the life of me
I can't imagine why ? but wonder if they just love
his style. Or as Max Lucado said about the voter
he talked too , that said they had voted with their
`` middle finger ``` mad blush crazy

First post on this " Political Thread "..
Quote:
I honestly think the Trump supporters are
embarrassed by Trump's actions and behavior and it's
pretty disturbing to them to read that stuff. I have not
seen one criticism of him by anyone here who supports
him so I think it's safe to say there's a lot of denial going on.



We have covered a lot of ground since then !
And the covers are still being pulled up and over
the search for the facts. Many yet to be found and
some seem to be``` DOA ``` tired frown
Quote:
This tendency of Trump
is all too familiar to The Fact Checker.

He is quick to make claims full of superlatives —
--- the greatest this and the most beautiful that —
with little to no empirical evidence to support them.

Trump proposed deep tax cuts, but so far,
he has released only a nine-page framework that
would start negotiations with lawmakers.
Yet since five months ago, he flatly proclaimed
his plan “is actually bigger than Reagan tax cuts.”

The Fact Checker has completed two-thirds of our
year-long project analyzing, categorizing and tracking
every false or misleading claim by Trump, as well as
his flip-flops.

As of our latest update Oct. 10, 2017, or his 264th day
in office, the president has made 1,318 claims over 263
days. He has averaged five claims a day, even picking
up pace since the six-month mark.

When you track Trump’s claims closely,
it can often feel like deja vu. Trump has a tendency
to repeat himself, and that includes his false
or misleading claims.




Fact Checker went as far as to speculate
at the rate Trump is going , he will surpass the
2,000 mark of- False - Misleading Claims and Flip Flops
`` by year one``` crazy
I do believe his supporters would say confused
Who Cares ! whistle
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#924859 - 10/12/17 11:23 AM Re: Political Thread [Re: Ernie]
Ernie Offline

Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 08/01/01
Posts: 48569
Loc: Southern CA
Drum Roll for Trumps signing on the
``` Health Care Executive Order``````
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#924912 - 10/12/17 04:28 PM Re: Political Thread [Re: Able_Dog]
code_ceis Offline
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Registered: 04/29/09
Posts: 11032
Loc: muttonville,ny
From a NFL site made sense.
Not pointed at anyone just a interesting point.
Quote:
Did you know that our soldiers don't take their oath to defend our flag? They take that oath to defend our Constitution, and a cornerstone of that Constitution they are sworn to defend is the right of free speech. So I'd suggest you stop trying to tear down the right to free speech, or some soldiers may be headed your way. you see their oath is to defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign or domestic. The "domestic" part is where you come in.
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#924948 - 10/12/17 07:34 PM Re: Political Thread [Re: code_ceis]
Ernie Offline

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Registered: 08/01/01
Posts: 48569
Loc: Southern CA
Spoken well !.
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#924950 - 10/12/17 09:06 PM Re: Political Thread [Re: Ernie]
Able_Dog Offline
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Registered: 12/07/03
Posts: 52546
Loc: So. Florida
The Russian social media story is getting HUGE, (I'm not talking about a connection to Trump's people). Their attempts to sow discord which were probably successful in some (many?) cases are shocking to say the least. Where this is going is anyone's guess but it's going to get very big in the next days and weeks.

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#924955 - 10/12/17 10:01 PM Re: Political Thread [Re: Able_Dog]
CabinConnection Offline
Bigfoot
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 01/20/04
Posts: 50517
Loc: The Indianhead's Left Nostril....
Originally Posted By Able_Dog
The Russian social media story is getting HUGE, (I'm not talking about a connection to Trump's people). Their attempts to sow discord which were probably successful in some (many?) cases are shocking to say the least. Where this is going is anyone's guess but it's going to get very big in the next days and weeks.

This coupled with "reportedly" N. Korea's cyber-warfare capabilities... A bit unsettling for an OFBG like me.

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#924964 - 10/13/17 08:46 AM Re: Political Thread [Re: CabinConnection]
Able_Dog Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 12/07/03
Posts: 52546
Loc: So. Florida
Maybe this is the "storm" that DT was talking about. These ads are shocking, now they are looking for possible "overlap" by the Trump organization. One of the media people was asked about that (three times) but she refused to answer.

Going to be very interesting to see where this goes and if it connects to the Trump campaign. Can Trump still call it a hoax, will he?

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#924965 - 10/13/17 09:21 AM Re: Political Thread [Re: Able_Dog]
CabinConnection Offline
Bigfoot
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 01/20/04
Posts: 50517
Loc: The Indianhead's Left Nostril....
Originally Posted By Able_Dog
Can Trump still call it a hoax, will he?

It doesn't matter. What Trump calls things has about zero relationship to reality. Sadly, I categorically "dismiss" anything that comes from him.

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#925010 - 10/14/17 09:21 AM Re: Political Thread [Re: CabinConnection]
Able_Dog Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 12/07/03
Posts: 52546
Loc: So. Florida
Very interesting discussion on Smerconish this AM with a legal expert (from Yale?). Long and short of it, it would not work. When Bannon stated Trump had a 30% chance of finishing his term (removal by the 25th Amend.) Trumps said "what's that?"

As explained, it could never work for a variety of reasons.

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#925030 - 10/14/17 12:28 PM Re: Political Thread [Re: Able_Dog]
Uncle_Alvah Offline
" Serial Griller "
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 06/16/03
Posts: 24621
Loc: Vanceboro, NC
Next Thursday I am driving to Binghamton for a week.
Obviously, I cannot have my handgun there.
It ticks me off no end on the most base level. Consider: I am deprived of any real ability to protect myself if need be, because of a law passed by Politicans many of whom enjoy the comfort of personal protection by armed, trained killers around the clock.
Essentially they are saying "You prey. Me not!".

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