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#902360 - 01/08/17 05:02 PM 64 kaiser willys jeep will not run "HELP PLEASE"
caribbeankline Offline
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Registered: 07/16/05
Posts: 101
Loc: michigan, usa
I will try to tell you all that is going on, and all that I have done.
I am about to go crazy,so Ihope someone can help....
It is a 64 kaiser willys jeep cj5 l-134 engine ,carter yf carb.
It started running very poorly, it would stutter when the gas pedal was pushed. I had to run it with the choke partly on to drive it.
then even that was not cutting it.
So I ordered a carb rebuild kit for it, and sure enough the accelerator pump rod would not even move inside. rebuilt it ,accelerator pump was functioning well now, all new gaskets ,new float etc.

While I was doing it , i ordered a tune up kit...capacitor,points,cap rotor,plugs(cap and rotor came a week later)
Put the carb on ,points,capacitor on...started right up and went down the road pretty well...
Parked it, and a few days later the cap and rotor came in and i installed them.....
Went to start it NOTHING,,,No Spark.(Pulled cap, no spark at the points at all).Seemed to be shorted inside the dist.although nothing was seen to be touching the casing...took the board out the the dis. and checked continuity and yep seemed to be shorted. took all parts off board and replaced ,.. new capacitor seems bad,,,put old cap back in and assembled...now I have spark, still will not run well,sputters and will not stay running.
gas flow to carb checked and seems to have good flow.
but will not run well, added gas to carb ,did not change.

Took carb back off and disasembled to be sure there was not a hole plugged etc. there was plenty of gas in the float bowl.
Recheck points gap , Still at 20.
Still nothing...
A person told me that somtimes the newer points springs,would not close as fast as oem ones and cause it run bad. So I put the old points back in, old cap and rotor....ran good for 30 or so seconds.
so I thought FINALLY i have it...went to eat. Came back ,tried to start it and Same old same ,does not run hardly at all.
Oh I forgot to mention ,There is 12 volts to the coil and I replaced the coil.
I do not see any kind of vacuum leaks, I have wondered if the fuel pump may be part of the issue, but do not want to spend the 80 bucks,unless i have to...also adding gas directly to the carb does not help.?.!
I am losing my mind and need help...I hope I have listed all i have done. Please help
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#902459 - 01/09/17 11:43 AM Re: 64 kaiser willys jeep will not run "HELP PLEASE" [Re: caribbeankline]
notnew2diy Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 08/18/06
Posts: 4359
Loc: harvard, il.
I am not a mechanic, nor have I worked on a vehicle such as yours.

"does not run hardly at all".....
Take one of your old plugs, gap it to ~ 1/4".
Remove any one of your plug wires, attach it to your "test" plug, lay it on the block and crank it over a few times.
What color is the spark at the plug when this happens?
Should be bright blueish-white.

I've had bad condensers (capacitor?) right outta the box.

You say.. "took all parts off board"....
I do not know what you mean by this statement.
Maybe it has something to do with the 1st line of my reply?

Check the rubbing block for the points.
Rubbing block worn?
Bumps on dizzy shaft worn? Dizzy shaft out of round?

No worn wires with the dizzy?
Electrical connections clean, brite and tight?

HTH...good luck....notnew.....
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#902683 - 01/11/17 09:41 AM Re: 64 kaiser willys jeep will not run "HELP PLEASE" [Re: caribbeankline]
Bob_Q Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 06/28/01
Posts: 17770
Loc: Albany area,New York
I can only guess you originally had one problem in the beginning;the carb.
Then it escalated replacing the distributor parts. Not that they didn't need replacing,but something happened to cause the no,and then intermittent spark problem.
I've seen condensers bad out of the box.
What is the board you are talking about removing from the distributor? The base the points are mounted to?
Is the vehicle worth going pointless? That would at least eliminate one problem.
Willys
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#902737 - 01/11/17 06:19 PM Re: 64 kaiser willys jeep will not run "HELP PLEASE" [Re: caribbeankline]
BillJeffy Offline
Don't Know Squat
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 01/02/06
Posts: 13420
Loc: New England
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Ditto what's been said so far.......

Don't know where you got the dist parts,
but if the points are newer chinese knockoffs,
they are essentially junk.

....and if the condenser failed, the point faces would burn
in a very short time.

Check the point faces for discoloration/pitting.

Search around for a GOOD set of points/condenser by reputable name.

The electronic pointless system is a good deal too,
There are a couple of simple systems to install,
but alas, the name escapes me at the moment..........

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#902754 - 01/12/17 05:30 AM Re: 64 kaiser willys jeep will not run "HELP PLEASE" [Re: BillJeffy]
notnew2diy Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 08/18/06
Posts: 4359
Loc: harvard, il.
Originally Posted By BillJeffy
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The electronic pointless system is a good deal too,
There are a couple of simple systems to install,
but alas, the name escapes me at the moment..........

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I installed a Skip White dizzy in my 70 BB GMC pick up.
Simple. I think I needed to run a 12v wire to it.
Bad side..Im kinda stuck getting replacement parts for it.
Most local Auto parts stores in my area wont take the time to try to find an in stock part.

Got ~ 5000 miles, knock wood, no problems....notnew....
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#902768 - 01/12/17 08:20 AM Re: 64 kaiser willys jeep will not run "HELP PLEASE" [Re: caribbeankline]
BillJeffy Offline
Don't Know Squat
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 01/02/06
Posts: 13420
Loc: New England
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'Pertronix' is the name.....

You'll havta enter distributor info to see if
they have one for that application.

http://pertronix.com/

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err....I'm not a Doctor, but I'll take a LOOK ! !

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#902769 - 01/12/17 08:21 AM Re: 64 kaiser willys jeep will not run "HELP PLEASE" [Re: caribbeankline]
BillJeffy Offline
Don't Know Squat
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 01/02/06
Posts: 13420
Loc: New England
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'Pertronix' is the name.....





500 error...... Double post frown

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Edited by BillJeffy (01/12/17 09:07 AM)
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Just Common Sense......
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#902803 - 01/12/17 02:06 PM Re: 64 kaiser willys jeep will not run "HELP PLEASE" [Re: caribbeankline]
Stevejo Offline
member

Registered: 09/08/04
Posts: 118
Loc: Brandon Manitoba
We ran into a problem some years ago with points. Seems that the manufacturers had a problem with long shelf storage when points became a slower moving part. At least the brand I was using started to put some kind of preservative on the point contact surfaces to prevent corrosion. If you didn't clean them before putting them into service they would burn very quickly and a no spark cond. would result. Clean new point contact surface with a piece of clean cloth and methyl hydrate. Hope that is your solution.

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