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#725021 - 08/18/12 08:18 PM Re: Shooting at Pro-Family Headquarters [Re: Joe_Guy]
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They are all guilty of violating natural laws. Not church laws, but laws of nature.

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#725023 - 08/18/12 08:52 PM Re: Shooting at Pro-Family Headquarters [Re: Bob_Fleming]
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Originally Posted By: Bob_Fleming
Equal rights for odd sexual orientation? How about equal rights for murderers and child molesters? It's all a matter of what you consider normal human rights.



[censored] you. Are you that stupid? You can't be that stupid.

Murderers and child molesters HURT other people. Your own freedom to swing your fists ends at my nose (or something like that).

Gay couples harm no one.

Your bullsh1t natural law argument was made in the 1950s and before to enforce segregation.

I'm sure I'll get in trouble for calling you dumb, even though you equate gay people to murderers and child molesters. I have many friends who happen to be gay, and I care about them, and it's [censored] like you who fight to maintain the status quo.

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#725024 - 08/18/12 08:59 PM Re: Shooting at Pro-Family Headquarters [Re: FredDwyer]
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Originally Posted By: FredDwyer
Who said anything about preventing heterosexual couples from marrying? That's an odd concept.


It was implied in your comment about encouraging the propagation of humanity or whatever nonsense it was. You were implying, intentionally or not, that allowing gay marriage would somehow reduce the rate of heterosexual marriage, or reduce the general birthrate of a society. Both ideas are laughably absurd.

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Since you do not believe that government licenses marriage to provide a good structure for the raising of the next generation, why do you think they license marriage?


It's a vestigial legal framework based on religious practices. But as long as the government is involved in providing legal rights to people, it is obligated to provide those rights equally.



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I believe it is prudent for society to invest money (tax breaks etc.) in an attempt to propagate a future. I see no reason for society to invest similar $$$$$$ simply to make homosexuals feel good about themselves. So that they can say, "see, ours is simply an alternative life style, of equal value to the community."


I believe it is the government's role to defend our rights as citizens and human beings. What does being straight have to do with propagating a future? Gays can't reproduce? Gays can't adopt? Gays can't have a family?

I hate to break it to you, they can. They can do all those things. And it is our obligation to extend to them the same legal rights that straight couples have.

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#725025 - 08/18/12 09:15 PM Re: Shooting at Pro-Family Headquarters [Re: Bob_Fleming]
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Originally Posted By: Bob_Fleming
They are all guilty of violating natural laws. Not church laws, but laws of nature.


I'm very sorry and seriously concerned that you or anyone believes that.

I only hope that one day more people will learn to be tolerant and not be so hateful of people who aren't exactly like them.

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#725031 - 08/19/12 07:08 AM Re: Shooting at Pro-Family Headquarters [Re: captain150]
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It's a vestigial legal framework based on religious practices. But as long as the government is involved in providing legal rights to people, it is obligated to provide those rights equally.


That's about it "in a nutshell". Well stated, Cap.

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#725032 - 08/19/12 07:11 AM Re: Shooting at Pro-Family Headquarters [Re: Joe_Guy]
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I only hope that one day more people will learn to be tolerant and not be so hateful of people who aren't exactly like them.


And aside from the legal implications, that's what it's all about.

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#725057 - 08/19/12 04:02 PM Re: Shooting at Pro-Family Headquarters [Re: Joe_Guy]
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In your opinion is sodomy natural?

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#725097 - 08/20/12 06:03 AM Re: Shooting at Pro-Family Headquarters [Re: Bob_Fleming]
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Natural, as in occurs in every human society throught the history of mankind? Occurs in many animal communities the world over, throughout history?

Yes.

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#725105 - 08/20/12 06:48 AM Re: Shooting at Pro-Family Headquarters [Re: Bob_Fleming]
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Originally Posted By: Bob_Fleming
In your opinion is sodomy natural?


You keep saying that. You do understand many gay relationships don't engage in it? I might say MOST, because women kinda can't. You also must be aware that many heterosexual relationships do.
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