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#708355 - 03/08/12 10:20 AM Re: Gas prices goin up... [Re: grizzly]
New_Climber Offline
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Registered: 04/27/03
Posts: 2091
Loc: Kalama, Washington
Originally Posted By: grizzly

...are you questioning the regime? whistle


I am sure I am already on a watch list somewhere!!

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#708360 - 03/08/12 11:52 AM Re: Gas prices goin up... [Re: New_Climber]
code_ceis Offline
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Registered: 04/29/09
Posts: 5407
Loc: Seneca Nation
"experts", ? confused

Definition

EX - HAS been.

Spurt Drip under pressure.

EX-Spurt Has been drip under pressure. grin
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#708361 - 03/08/12 11:59 AM Re: Gas prices goin up... [Re: New_Climber]
grizzly Offline
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Registered: 09/19/02
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Loc: penna.
Originally Posted By: New_Climber
Originally Posted By: grizzly

...are you questioning the regime? whistle


I am sure I am already on a watch list somewhere!!


...I AM TOO!!! wink
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#708376 - 03/08/12 02:29 PM Re: Gas prices goin up... [Re: New_Climber]
JimTheTinkerer Offline
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Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 03/24/03
Posts: 20035
Loc: US
Originally Posted By: New_Climber
Quote:
You keep repeating the same time-dyslexic stuff over and over


Where...and How...I am just repeating what I hear and research. Both the analyst’s report is current within a few weeks, and the president speech is as of last week. I really hope you don’t consider that “outdated information”.

You will pay at 38MPG...because gas will be $10/per gal if the analyst is correct....

When listening to the analyst, if we were using more gas...aka, had cars at 20MPG we would pay less.

My problem is who is straight up lying to me?? The president, or the analyst. Both, we say are "experts", of which both have a very LARGE effect on my life each and every day...in this situation each and every time I fill up the gas tank....even at 38MPG!!!!



I correct myself...
you seem to be amazingly time-dyslexic.
I hope you're not investing in this light show
because your "analysts" have your data
pre-dated, post-dated, time switched, and extrapolated
enough that you're ripe for fleecing.

I'm not talking about gas prices in the economy anymore..
I thnk I'm looking at some pretty intense 3-card montey
psychosis.


I used to wonder why gold-buying was huge, gold-selling
was huge at the little gold shops, and the price just
hung around almost the same. Seeing your posts
I understand how millions of people
can get churned so bad.

So...heh...thanks for that, anyway.
Think might hang around the buy-gold store
and check out some of the babbling.
At the keno parlor nobody talks.
Makes research hard.
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#708386 - 03/08/12 04:44 PM Re: Gas prices goin up... [Re: JimTheTinkerer]
EAP Offline
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Registered: 09/23/03
Posts: 11037
Loc: The HEARTland - Ohio
Back to the subject: Gas around here is around $3.569 if you hunt. Normally they raise on Thursday however the past several years, normal rise days can be anyday with the exception of the weekend.

I think they're just in a holding pattern unti the next so-called clamity in the world gives an excuse to push up again.

Speaking of calamities, Obama's EPA is probably the worse in recent times and is causing some of these price spikes with the shutting of refineries due to their thug-like tactics. And over regulation.

Oil refineries aren't the only ones either, power utilities also feeling their wrath.

Just pay it forward (EPA)...come November will shove it back you morons!
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#708415 - 03/09/12 05:33 AM Re: Gas prices goin up... [Re: JimTheTinkerer]
New_Climber Offline
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Registered: 04/27/03
Posts: 2091
Loc: Kalama, Washington
http://www.kitco.com/charts/livegold.html

Wow....if you definition of Gold going no where looking at the 5yr chart...I think I have some beach front property for you in Phoenix wink

I do think you have highlighted the core problem...the core with almost everything in the market today. Who do you listen to?? Obviously you listen to research and reports you agree with and don't listen to the reports I read...because you don't agree....the reversely for me.

The problem is...you and I don't make laws and policy that effect everyone...the president does...and I have to assume being he is not a financial expert, as I don't expect him to be, he is listening to the experts....of which which side of the fence do they come from...your backyard or mine??

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#708418 - 03/09/12 06:08 AM Re: Gas prices goin up... [Re: New_Climber]
JimTheTinkerer Offline
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Registered: 03/24/03
Posts: 20035
Loc: US
Yummy.
More cherry-picking.
Clever, picking 5 years.

The 1-year is boring, and it should be
spiking much higher to match your hysteria.

The consumption went down.
Refineries had to close.
That affected some areas a lot, some a little.
Here, the barrel price dominates, the
refinery effect is minimal. We get NB supplies
and NJ supplies.

Hmmm... refinery effect higher in some
places than others. Sounds like the free
market dragging gasoline into the dark spots
until the price pays for new infrastructure.

This is real economics.
Get a grip.


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#708432 - 03/09/12 07:21 AM Re: Gas prices goin up... [Re: New_Climber]
JimTheTinkerer Offline
" Humming Bulb "
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 03/24/03
Posts: 20035
Loc: US
You mention gold.
5 year chart.

click to the 5-yr gasoline chart:

http://www.newyorkgasprices.com/retail_price_chart.aspx

Interesting.
Up and down and up.
And the shape doesn't seem to match gold, Obama policy.


When it was high years ago, gasoline consumption
took a nosedive, about 20% in a month.
Gasoline prices collapsed soon after.
Isn't that interesting.


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#708498 - 03/09/12 12:31 PM Re: Gas prices goin up... [Re: Joe_Guy]
Dennis_H_N.J. Offline
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Registered: 03/12/02
Posts: 25007
Loc: Toms River, N.J.
So your saying that Yahoo lies??
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#708576 - 03/10/12 06:01 AM Re: Gas prices goin up... [Re: JimTheTinkerer]
New_Climber Offline
Super Handyman

Registered: 04/27/03
Posts: 2091
Loc: Kalama, Washington
I don't see why picking the 5yr chart is cherry picking...why is it one can't look at past data to decide on what future data might be?? Do you make investments blindly?? Or do you look at past data?? Or do you have a way of looking into the future to determine what will happen?? The only thing I can agree I am guilty of is that I am only looking at one chart and making a comparison...but I don't even think that is true, being I also shop for food and buy energy (electric)...all have also gone up??

I am also not sure which chart you are looking at..and saying they don't match...5yr gas compares to 5yr gold??

Starting in 2009 they have the same moving avg up...both have the same dip at the same time in 2011. The move sideways in 2009 for gas was due to economy factors...then as it digested, it continues it move up with gold? Of course there is always corrections in the market...may problem right now is that the president says one thing, the market analyst says something else??

So please answer the above question??? Is yahoo and cnbc analyst lying?? If they are, why is not the president also not telling the whole true..

I do thank you for the gas historical chart….kind of secures my belief that something NOT market driven is pushing the oil/gas market. Why did it spike in 2008, there was no shortage, but the housing and banking sectors were about to collapse….who needed to get out of these collapsing sectors??? Maybe the banks that are too big to fail needed to save at least something??? Now it is driving up again??? Why?? Still no shortage, in fact the other way around, we are using less yet prices are driving up just like 2008… could be Iran? But if past data shows anything…I would not bet on that….

oh wait a minute, am I allowed to look at past data? grin

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