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#708582 - 03/10/12 06:45 AM Re: Gas prices goin up... [Re: New_Climber]
JimTheTinkerer Offline
" Humming Bulb "
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 03/24/03
Posts: 20136
Loc: US

Wow...you're cherry-picking even as you look.
To me it just makes your questions look delirious.
I can't answer a psychosis. Nobody can.
If you've formed the opinion that gas prices
always go up when consumption goes down
by convenient editing, only you can answer yourself.
If you pre-date, post-date, chuck all but 2 years
of gasoline, keep 5 for gold in order to keep direction,
that only makes you bear witness against yourself.

You will spindle, fold, bend, and mutilate facts
to your service. I cannot answer that. Nobody ever can.
Maybe certain professionals, but definitely not
economists. People who look at the mind.

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#708590 - 03/10/12 07:29 AM Re: Gas prices goin up... [Re: New_Climber]
Bob_Q Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 06/28/01
Posts: 12597
Loc: Albany area,New York
Cherry picking. That phrase is used quite often,did you notice?
Could be an underlying problem there. Hmmmm!

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#708606 - 03/10/12 10:00 AM Re: Gas prices goin up... [Re: Bob_Q]
Able_Dog Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 12/07/03
Posts: 27331
Loc: N Georgia
Originally Posted By: Bob_Q
Cherry picking. That phrase is used quite often,did you notice?
Could be an underlying problem there. Hmmmm!


Quote:
Cherry picking, suppressing evidence, or the fallacy of incomplete evidence is the act of pointing to individual cases or data that seem to confirm a particular position, while ignoring a significant portion of related cases or data that may contradict that position. It is a kind of fallacy of selective attention, the most common example of which is the confirmation bias.


Under the circumstances, a good choice of words. Whether or not it's accurate or not has little to do with the idea that he's trying to convey. hmmmmmmmmm.

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#708608 - 03/10/12 11:06 AM Re: Gas prices goin up... [Re: Bob_Q]
JimTheTinkerer Offline
" Humming Bulb "
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 03/24/03
Posts: 20136
Loc: US
Originally Posted By: Bob_Q
Cherry picking. That phrase is used quite often,did you notice?
Could be an underlying problem there. Hmmmm!


Sure right there.

It is defined as picking only the small
bit of information that is convenient to your POV.

You know about that?

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#708646 - 03/10/12 09:06 PM Re: Gas prices goin up... [Re: JimTheTinkerer]
New_Climber Offline
Super Handyman

Registered: 04/27/03
Posts: 2105
Loc: Kalama, Washington
Bottom line....

The CNBC analyst says the problem with gas prices is reduced consumption....

The President says a way to stop raising gas prices is to reduce consumption..

The way I see it...that these are contradicting statements???

yes or no...or...

so I ask…do you think the analyst on CNBC are stating the facts??? and….. Is the president stating the facts from his advisors??

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#708704 - 03/11/12 04:02 PM Re: Gas prices goin up... [Re: EAP]
Able_Dog Offline
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Registered: 12/07/03
Posts: 27331
Loc: N Georgia
Quote:
bama's EPA is probably the worse in recent times and is causing some of these price spikes with the shutting of refineries due to their thug-like tactics. And over regulation.


And they're causing higher prices in Canada, England, Germany, Japan and other countries?

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#708887 - 03/12/12 03:19 PM Re: Gas prices goin up... [Re: Able_Dog]
New_Climber Offline
Super Handyman

Registered: 04/27/03
Posts: 2105
Loc: Kalama, Washington
Originally Posted By: Able_Dog
Quote:
bama's EPA is probably the worse in recent times and is causing some of these price spikes with the shutting of refineries due to their thug-like tactics. And over regulation.


And they're causing higher prices in Canada, England, Germany, Japan and other countries?


Yes, very possible and if his EPA tactics are causing issues, then higher prices a crossed the world...remember, most of the energy prices are traded on the global market. So, if refineries are shutting down in the US, it takes supply off the market.

But then I guess that would go all the way back to....Is there a supply shortage in the first place...or does the current price more reflect market manipulation but have no fundamentals at all.

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#708901 - 03/12/12 04:41 PM Re: Gas prices goin up... [Re: New_Climber]
Able_Dog Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 12/07/03
Posts: 27331
Loc: N Georgia
Isn't the decreased demand explanation contrary to supply and demand rules? The supply has not gone down. It's not a free market system.

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#708912 - 03/12/12 05:07 PM Re: Gas prices goin up... [Re: Able_Dog]
EAP Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 09/23/03
Posts: 11039
Loc: The HEARTland - Ohio
I love it.

Justify our prices using other countries' prices. The fact is there is little comparison.

Oil has become more globally influenced but that does not fully explain our woes.

When President Bush announced a lifting and easing of drilling restrictions when oil was $147 barrel the price dropped immediately by $9 a barrel. What did that have to do with the price of gas in Europe? [Might've brought the cost down there as well to some extent too.]

And that substantial price drop was the start of a continuous drop in the price of oil and gas.

When government restricts the supply the prices go up, It is just as simple as that.

Obama and the democrats in the Senate are just grandstanding over the Keystone pipeline.

Environmental fools said the Caribou would be endagered with
the Alaskan oil pipeline 40 years ago.

Truth is they enjoy the pipeline because it provides a source of shelter and shade they heretofore had not enjoyed previously.
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#708916 - 03/12/12 05:17 PM Re: Gas prices goin up... [Re: EAP]
Able_Dog Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 12/07/03
Posts: 27331
Loc: N Georgia
I'm sure glad you love it because the people who know about oil price say it's a global market and the president of the United States cannot control the price.

BTW did you see the news release last week that Obama was responsible for the Titanic sinking?

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