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#707532 - 02/29/12 04:50 PM Re: bathroom vanity drain [Re: yardmaster]
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I swear...sometimes I think I just jinx myself!!!!

New drain installed. Close plug put water in sink. No leaks! Good right?

As soon as i open the drain it starts leaking from around the black washer. If i run the water...it leaks, heavy, from around the black washer.

The fact that water is getting to the black washer...is a problem. Now it only does it when the drain is open...so the sponge flange washer is working just fine....


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#707534 - 02/29/12 05:25 PM Re: bathroom vanity drain [Re: yardmaster]
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This link looks like your same drain thingy. Looks like the openings you're referring to should be covered up by the thickness of the sink where it's inserted into the hole. Maybe your sinks drain hole area is to thin to compensate for this type fo drain body.
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#707536 - 02/29/12 05:29 PM Re: bathroom vanity drain [Re: dora]
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Loc: The Indianhead's Left Nostril....
Yep - those holes should be well above the seal/nut...

Yardo - are they?

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#707551 - 02/29/12 07:37 PM Re: bathroom vanity drain [Re: yardmaster]
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There's SOMETHING wrong with the sink-to-black-washer
connection....

Inspect the bottom edge of the sink where it meets the
black washer CAREFULLY, and run your finger around there
checking for burrs / cuts that would allow a drip through.

Also, when you fit the black washer to the sink,
is there enough room for the inside edge of the washer
to fit IN THE HOLE without forcing.

Tightening the nut for the washer should NOT require any tools.

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#707556 - 02/29/12 08:47 PM Re: bathroom vanity drain [Re: BillJeffy]
yardmaster Offline
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Originally Posted By: CabinConnection
Yep - those holes should be well above the seal/nut...

Yardo - are they?





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Originally Posted By: BillJeffy
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There's SOMETHING wrong with the sink-to-black-washer
connection....

Inspect the bottom edge of the sink where it meets the
black washer CAREFULLY, and run your finger around there
checking for burrs / cuts that would allow a drip through.

Also, when you fit the black washer to the sink,
is there enough room for the inside edge of the washer
to fit IN THE HOLE without forcing.

Tightening the nut for the washer should NOT require any tools.

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But there shouldn't be any water to drip through at this black washer connection. THe black washer and nut combo are pulling everything together enough that the white ring is sealing properly now. But water is getting through on normal draining process.

FYI...This sink doesn't have an overflow hole.
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#707559 - 02/29/12 09:06 PM Re: bathroom vanity drain [Re: yardmaster]
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FYI...This sink doesn't have an overflow hole.


REALLY?



This pic (BELOW) is a good example of the chipping/damage on the edges
of the sink ....I expect that there is some on the inside ID Too,
creating the leak.



Secondarily to that, with no overflow, yes, water will run through
those rectangle holes, and collect on the black gasket,
BUT, if the sealing surface is GOOD, it still shouldn't drip from there.


Puzzling...?!

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Edited by BillJeffy (02/29/12 09:07 PM)
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#707567 - 03/01/12 05:14 AM Re: bathroom vanity drain [Re: yardmaster]
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Loc: The Indianhead's Left Nostril....
"THe black washer and nut combo are pulling everything together enough that the white ring is sealing properly now"

This reads as if the white ring is touching the sink base... The ring goes between the nut and the rubber gasket - it's purpose is to keep the nut from deforming the gasket during tightening. The rubber gasket should be what's touching the sink.

As I mentioned above, I use plumber's GREASE between the nut/white washer and between the white washer/gasket and between the gasket/sink to also help reduce rubber gasket deformation. And IMHO that nut should be tight enough so that you can see the rubber gasket start to deform around the sink base flange. If you've used plumber's PUTTY up on the drain flange, tightening that nut will pull the assembly down through the putty - so sometimes you really have to horse that nut tight...

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#707585 - 03/01/12 07:09 AM Re: bathroom vanity drain [Re: CabinConnection]
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Quote:
This reads as if the white ring is touching the sink base... The ring goes between the nut and the rubber gasket


I think you nailed it.

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#707588 - 03/01/12 07:45 AM Re: bathroom vanity drain [Re: CabinConnection]
yardmaster Offline
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Originally Posted By: CabinConnection
"THe black washer and nut combo are pulling everything together enough that the white ring is sealing properly now"

This reads as if the white ring is touching the sink base... The ring goes between the nut and the rubber gasket - it's purpose is to keep the nut from deforming the gasket during tightening. The rubber gasket should be what's touching the sink.

As I mentioned above, I use plumber's GREASE between the nut/white washer and between the white washer/gasket and between the gasket/sink to also help reduce rubber gasket deformation. And IMHO that nut should be tight enough so that you can see the rubber gasket start to deform around the sink base flange. If you've used plumber's PUTTY up on the drain flange, tightening that nut will pull the assembly down through the putty - so sometimes you really have to horse that nut tight...


The white ring I was referring to is the foam one between the drain flange in the sink...the one referenced as "finger ring" previously.

I thinking im gonna pull it apart and wrap duct tape to seal those holes. whistle
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#707592 - 03/01/12 08:02 AM Re: bathroom vanity drain [Re: yardmaster]
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I thinking im gonna pull it apart and wrap duct tape to seal those holes.


Waste of time IMO. You might try smoothing the inside of the hole where that black seal goes. And speaking of that black seal, it doesn't looked like it's compressed very much to me. It should be flattened somewhat. That's where the seal takes place.

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