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#638181 - 12/06/10 07:57 AM
Re: Alternator question
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Bigfoot
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I suspect the ultimate answer is going to be a generator, similar to those already available for pedal power... Generators Amazon's 300w jobbie One set of plans
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#638182 - 12/06/10 09:59 AM
Re: Alternator question
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Don't Know Squat
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.....think in terms of three miles an hour.
Interesting concept.......I'll havta think about that.
Typical belt drives (of today) would be more easily driven than a chain.....considering the speed....
Some in-depth study would have to be done to get alt speed / output to correspond to required usage.....If only charging battery, a slightly higher voltage (13.5) is required, and this is determined by voltage regulator...usually now, contained in alt.
If you add lights, or whatever in the system, speed is important to determine output, AND overcome usage, AND have enough remaining to charge battery.
Punky - idle speed, BTW, is not indicative of alternator speed, unless you know the pulley ratio of engine-to-alt pulley....... and in the diesel system, that alt is probably 130 amps or so, and has to run lights, fan, radio, yadayadayada....... so even at idle, the alt is really spinning, up to maybe 7000 RPM at cruise.
OK, going back in my box............. 
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#638183 - 12/06/10 11:08 AM
Re: Alternator question
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` Sharp Shooter`
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Just splash guards for the alternator rig... They're really not that well protected even in a vehicle. Could easily live in a "bread box" above the axle. The diff's output shaft could well point vertical.
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#638184 - 12/06/10 11:12 AM
Re: Alternator question
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While optimal charging speed may be 1200-2500 rpm I still think that battery charging will happen at idle. Also, if it didn't, the alternator light on the dash would be lit until the rpm of the engine was raised.
I think the problem is the voltage. In order to charge a battery, the charging voltage doesn't only have to be higher than the battery voltage, it has to be a decent amount higher. A fully charged lead acid might be 12.6 volts or something, but the charging voltage is usually 14 or 14.5 volts. If the alternator is only hitting 13 volts at idle, that's not enough. It might be enough to run a limited number of things in the car (radio for example) so the battery doesn't discharge, but it may not be charging either.
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#638185 - 12/06/10 04:12 PM
Re: Alternator question
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I think a serpentine type belt (cogs) would be ideal because who wants to listen to a chain? A canvas curtain or a mud flap should be adequate to keep the alt. dry and allow for ventilation. OK auto heads, tell me how many revs a drive shaft would make for each revolution of a wheel. I would think I would go for an axle from a light rear wheel drive car like a Chevy Nova. I calculated that a wheel with a seven foot circumference would make 754 revs per mile. Correct me if I'm wrong, math isn't my strong suit,:p at three miles per hour, the wheel is turning at 37.7 RPM.
Another aspect of this is that under hard pulling conditions, the use of a simple on/off switch would leave the alternator idling and creating virtually no drag. Right?
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#638187 - 12/06/10 04:22 PM
Re: Alternator question
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Another dumb question: Does it matter which way the alternator turns?
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#638189 - 12/06/10 04:47 PM
Re: Alternator question
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Bigfoot
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Another aspect of this is that under hard pulling conditions, the use of a simple on/off switch would leave the alternator idling and creating virtually no drag. Right?
The drag created by the actual electricity generation is minimal when compared to the loads your entire drive train are imposing.
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