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#619696 - 08/13/10 10:24 AM 1/4" per foot
BradMM Offline
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Registered: 07/16/10
Posts: 40
Loc: Texas
How do you do this? I assume a sand base in the bottom of the trench would be a good start and then just work with it until you get it right? I was wondering if I determined where the bubble on my level was at that slope, could I use that as a guide?

Brad

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#619697 - 08/13/10 10:39 AM Re: 1/4" per foot [Re: BradMM]
Able_Dog Online   content
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 12/07/03
Posts: 26762
Loc: N Georgia
With a 4 ft level you could use a 1 inch (or 3/4 inch) gauge block put the gauge block on the low end and read level. Just push and pack dirt under the pipe to get the right elevation.

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#619698 - 08/13/10 10:43 AM Re: 1/4" per foot [Re: BradMM]
JasonB Offline
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Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 04/27/04
Posts: 12940
Loc: Cape Spencer, New Brunswick, C...
Usually this is done with a surveyor's type level, if the pipeline is at all long. The drop would be 2.5" every 10', so probably the guys would check it each 10 or 20 feet. Sand pushed under the line at each station will be used to temporarily set the slope, and once it's established, the rest of the sand would be backfilled under and then backfilling completed.

You can make a water level for this purpose. A lenght of garden hose, water filled, with clear tubing at each end. The water in the clear tubing will always be level from one end to the other.... Allowing you to have a stable reference... Can be a bit tricky, but it's a good accurate way.

A laser level and a measuring stick could do the job. You can rent'em if you don't wanna buy.

A short one could be done by setting a plank level (with carpenter's level) adjacent the pipe, and using that as a reference...

How long's the run?

J
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#619699 - 08/13/10 11:01 AM Re: 1/4" per foot [Re: JasonB]
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Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 12/07/03
Posts: 26762
Loc: N Georgia
About 12 years ago I installed a 3 inch PVC line (about 50 ft). I was REALLY tight on the fall from the start to the septic tank. I had one 20ft section with a drop of less than an inch from one end to the other! That line has NEVER clogged and is still in use. (A one bedroom, one bath apt with a kitchen).

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#619700 - 08/14/10 03:43 AM Re: 1/4" per foot [Re: BradMM]
CabinConnection Offline
Bigfoot
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 01/20/04
Posts: 34404
Loc: The Indianhead's Left Nostril....
Many of my levels have common slopes (1/8", 1/4", 1/2") designated right on the bubbles. Easiest way is to pick up a plumber's level for less than $10 at a hardware/home center.

No idea what your specific need is, but usually if you're "close" (+/- 1/16" from desired) drain lines will be fine. Just DON'T have any low spots where water can puddle.

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#619701 - 08/14/10 03:22 PM Re: 1/4" per foot [Re: CabinConnection]
BradMM Offline
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Registered: 07/16/10
Posts: 40
Loc: Texas
Quote:

Many of my levels have common slopes (1/8", 1/4", 1/2") designated right on the bubbles. Easiest way is to pick up a plumber's level for less than $10 at a hardware/home center.





COOL! I didn't know there was such a thing as a plumber's level. Actually, I think I have plenty of fall to work with but I'll still want to check it when I'm putting it in. Not too long of a run, either. It should be easy except that I'll probably be breaking out limestone for the whole thing!

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#619702 - 08/15/10 06:13 AM Re: 1/4" per foot [Re: BradMM]
CabinConnection Offline
Bigfoot
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 01/20/04
Posts: 34404
Loc: The Indianhead's Left Nostril....
What are you installing?

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#619703 - 08/15/10 09:04 AM Re: 1/4" per foot [Re: BradMM]
Spackelman Offline
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Registered: 04/27/06
Posts: 5098
Loc: Exit 117, Garden State Parkway...
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easy except that I'll probably be breaking out limestone for the whole thing!




If your pipe will be laying directly on limestone or similar, you should add a bedding layer of sand or pea gravel, 3 to 4" thick, at a minimum.

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#619704 - 08/15/10 09:14 AM Re: 1/4" per foot [Re: Spackelman]
CabinConnection Offline
Bigfoot
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 01/20/04
Posts: 34404
Loc: The Indianhead's Left Nostril....
Curious... Why so thick Spack?

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#619705 - 08/15/10 09:34 AM Re: 1/4" per foot [Re: CabinConnection]
Spackelman Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 04/27/06
Posts: 5098
Loc: Exit 117, Garden State Parkway...
You want 2" min under the pipe and typiclly, you'll have a 1" to 2" variation in the bottom of the pipe trench, especially with limestone, shale, rock etc.

3" to 4" bedding will help eliminate any "hard spots" between the pipe and actual bottom of the trench.

Not knowing the application - it may be over-kill, but site unseen, it's good practice.


Edited by Spackelman (08/15/10 09:36 AM)

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