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#487945 - 09/23/08 09:04 AM
Dr Paul Endorses a Candidate
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Carpal Tunnel
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A New Alliance - By Dr. Ron Paul (Chuck Baldwin For President!)
The press conference at the National Press Club had a precise purpose. campaignforlibertyIt was to expose, to as many people as possible, the gross deception of our presidential election process. It is controlled by the powerful elite to make sure that neither candidate of the two major parties will challenge the status quo. There is no real choice between the two major parties and their nominees, only the rhetoric varies. The amazingly long campaign is designed to make sure the real issues are ignored. The quotes I used at the press conference from insider Carroll Quigley and the League of Women voters strongly support this contention. Calling together candidates from the liberal, conservative, libertarian and progressive constituencies, who are all opposed to this rigged process, was designed to alert the American people to the uselessness of continuing to support a process that a claims that one’s only choice is to choose the lesser of two evils and reject a principle vote that might challenge the status quo as a wasted vote. I’ve thought about the unsolicited advice from the Libertarian Party candidate, and he has convinced me to reject my neutral stance in the November election. I’m supporting Chuck Baldwin, the Constitution Party candidate.
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#487946 - 09/23/08 09:24 AM
Re: Dr Paul Endorses a Candidate
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Everybody Loves Ray
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hmmm the only problem with this is his WEBSITE that has a link called Buck for Chuck. however going to read up on him.
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#487947 - 09/23/08 10:37 AM
Re: Dr Paul Endorses a Candidate
[Re: rfm3]
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he's having a money bomb drive to raise funds. there are many videos of him, and what he stands for, on youtube.
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#487948 - 09/23/08 10:58 AM
Re: Dr Paul Endorses a Candidate
[Re: FranS]
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Shaman
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As I have sat here and listened ``to both sides``..of the slice  `` of members we have ..  I am back to wondering ``about the political strategy and the undecided woman voters and..well that old ``Spoiler`` effect...  of further splitting the vote ( regardless of the electronic voting machine mess we have yet to deal with and FIX..well ``eye mean`  correct..  )))))))) Seems very very strange to me...  June 2008 Quote:
For someone who is no longer a candidate, Paul spent quite a bit of money on his campaign in the month of May, $322,000 and not only does he not support McCain, he does not recognize him as the nominee.
The latest polls show John McCain and Barack Obama in statistical ties for the November election. Each of them is going to need the support of as many of their own party members as they can muster. The Democrats are working hard on party unity. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are going to begin campaigning together. While this does not sit well with many of the Clinton supporters, especially since her name is not going to be put into nomination at the convention as is the custom for the first round of balloting. They are aiming for a first round nomination and a show of party unity right from the get go.
The situation is not the same on the Republican side. With the McCain camp trying to make sure that Ron Paul does not have a chance to be a speaker and the Paul supporters still loyal to their candidate he could very well be the spoiler.
William Poundstone, Gaming the Vote: Why Elections Aren’t Fair (and What We Can Do About It) February 2008
In December 1947, Alfred Gödel, a German logician who had fled Nazi Germany for Princeton, New Jersey at the outbreak of World War II, sat down to take his U.S. citizenship exam, accompanied by his good friend and official witness, Albert Einstein. After the judge complimented Gödel on escaping Germany and its “evil dictator,” he asked the famous logician whether he thought a similar dictatorship could ever arise in the U.S. “I know how that can happen!” remarked Gödel excitedly. Then, much to Einstein’s chagrin, Gödel leapt into an explanation of how the American voting system is deeply, integrally flawed.
Though he is just one of many characters in William Poundstone’s Gaming the Vote: Why Elections Aren’t Fair (and What We Can Do About It), Gödel’s claim forms the crux of the book, a spirited history of voting in America. In concise, uncluttered prose, Poundstone explains why the “spoiler effect” has caused at least five American presidential elections to be won by the second most popular candidate. The “spoiler” is a minor candidate who draws enough votes away from the favored contender to turn the election thereby splitting the votes that candidate might have received......
Love to hear Harolds sincere thoughts and views on this.. 
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#487949 - 09/23/08 11:12 AM
Re: Dr Paul Endorses a Candidate
[Re: Ernie]
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and that is based on a supposed 2 party system. we are not pound by a two party system. anyone can run for office. the powers that be try to keep it a two party system. thus any other person running is considered a spoiler. if all ran, as intended, and fairly, then it's anyone's game.
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#487950 - 09/23/08 11:40 AM
Re: Dr Paul Endorses a Candidate
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then it's anyone's game.
You are right. It is a game, not serious to any voter, as the voter isn't given the info to decide, most vote on color, gender, parental issues, that have little to do with running a country.
The founders expected the landowner to decide the issues that related to the land, as agriculture was the main business and land was the means of performance. Today's business leaders are no longer connected to the land. International corporations decide issues.
When the voters are tied to the land, so have to decide what is best for land within our borders in opposition to what is going on elsewhere, there is a patriotic duty and responsibility to neighbors. The attention to the USA is being ignored.
Thus, it is arguable as to whether the one-man-one-vote or the electoral college is still valid. I say the one-man- one-vote of citizens is more valuable that the opinions of representatives who work for the international corporations. Unfortunately, the career politicians decide who will be their boss, instead of relegating him to a rubber stamp with less power than themselves.
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