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#447810 - 04/14/08 08:54 PM Re: The Ford Boycott ... [Re: HeatPro]
echo Offline
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Registered: 06/17/03
Posts: 131
Loc: northern ky
Actually Harold, I hold two undergrad degrees and an MBA. I have spent extended time in both Canada and the States. I visit this site as a way to relax and learn about my hobbies of woodworking, remodeling, and putzing with computers. In my 3 person household, we have 3 p4 desktops, two laptops (all xp pro or vista based) cat5e throughout plus wireless for putzing...all installed/maintained by me. Your disparaging little tone toward my comment is what I would expect from the harold I remember from a few years ago. You should really try to grow and become a tad more tolerant yourself...YOU MUST KNOW THAT MY POINT WAS EXACTLY WHAT CABIN CONNECTION NOTED- NOT YOUR SNIDE INSINUATION. I have given Direct Medical Care to gays with full blown HIV- including inserting IV lines. I do not just pop off and spout whatever is politically correct- I actually am in the trenches. Even you should be able tol see that I was talking about bigots from the liberal side. Take off your blinders!
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#447811 - 04/14/08 09:10 PM Re: The Ford Boycott ... [Re: echo]
HeatPro Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 07/30/04
Posts: 28022
Loc: South New Jersey
Your response above is pure BS. I wasn't insinuating, I said it LOUD and CLEAR.
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promote aetheism, gays, greenism/global warming fanaticism and you are an intellectual



That is a pure display of intolerance and ignorance. Seems, if you actually did go to college, you didn't like your professors or classmates who were there to be intellectuals for at least a while. It is possible that for hard-working parents spending $20,000 a year for 5 years in college that someone never achieves an intellect.

Because you have a Republican committee smear-campaign personal-attack mode to anyone who points that out - doesn't wash away your statement.
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#447812 - 04/14/08 09:56 PM Re: The Ford Boycott ... [Re: echo]
xmy556a Offline
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Registered: 12/04/01
Posts: 30218
Loc: Québec, Canada
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Right on Bob! I notice that all of the "liberalminded" posters believe/express tolerance for all except for those that have views not in concordance with their own...then- the words "bigot, rightwinger/catholics, smallminded,etc... get lobbed like hand grenades. promote aetheism, gays, greenism/global warming fanaticism and you are an intellectual- question it and you must be a neanderthal bible thumper- so sad they do not see their own narrow mindedness.........




...I was talking about bigots from the liberal side.




I didn't read it as such so the wording could have been improved.
I may have missed a post or two on this thread but the only bigotry or near-bigotry was Bob's original comment flaunting the AFA's victory against Ford.
That was near-bigotry against persons, if it wasn't full-out bigotry. Every other post by ebery other person (unless I missed) defended against that ancient attitude.
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#447813 - 04/14/08 10:08 PM Re: The Ford Boycott ... [Re: xmy556a]
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Registered: 09/13/03
Posts: 8530
I'm not a bigot, but I truly believe that modern society should study the differences in human races. That kind of work was given a black eye in the late 1930's by Hitler, an has been a "verbotten" subject ever since.

Am I a bigot to believe that if we looked, we'd find differences between the various human races? Am I wrong to say that we're simply not looking because anything that looks like "eugenics" is immediately labeled as bigotry in disguise? And, no reputable sponsor wants to be associated with anything so politically incorrect as bigotry.

The study of human races is an area where we simply choose not to look, and when we do look, we look with blinders on to ensure we see only what we're looking for, and nothing else.

Truth is, we're scared we're going to see what we don't want to. We're ostriches with our heads in the sand, hoping that not seeing an issue will make it disappear.

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#447814 - 04/14/08 11:23 PM Re: The Ford Boycott ... [Re: Nestor_Kelebay]
HeatPro Offline
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Registered: 07/30/04
Posts: 28022
Loc: South New Jersey
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The study of human races is an area where we simply choose not to look, and when we do look, we look with blinders on to ensure we see only what we're looking for, and nothing else.


You keep repeating that. I respond every time that the studies of genetics, evolution, linguistics, medicine, Anthropology and Sociology are fields that do attend to the study of human races.

It seems like they don't exist to engineering students with little experience in such studies, but they have been a subject, especially during your entire lifetime.

http://www.trinity.edu/~mkearl/race.html

http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&...aBWjaOfgo#PPR10,M1

http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/news/article/6872


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Am I a bigot to believe that if we looked, we'd find differences between the various human races?


No, but if you fixated on differences of appearance, you'd have little to go upon for superiority, and if you fixated upon some individuals in certain circumstances to smear the entire race, you would be a bigot. Usually, bigots don't go about choosing Booker T. Washington, Lloyd Quarterman, Clarence Thomas, Maya Angelou, or Jackie Robinson to prove the superiority of blacks, usually some poor person of limited ability to prove the entire race inferior.
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#447815 - 04/15/08 07:02 PM Re: The Ford Boycott ... [Re: HeatPro]
echo Offline
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Registered: 06/17/03
Posts: 131
Loc: northern ky
My education is real. Your phony "tolerance" is not. As I said- can't beat the message than beat the guy with verbal garbage. You are a hypocrite. You Made your living installing freon based systems and (my God!) soot belching heat systems even as you prattle on about my statement disparaging greenies. I guarantee I've had more formal education (BS Biology 198o, 3years organic and physical chemistry, ecology, etc; BSN 1983; MBA 1991) then you. I put myself through school- I know the value of education. I do not sit in a little cubicle or dingy little office taking out my passive/aggressive surges on whoever stumbles over my rantings. Stick to what you know- hvac/hydronics and leave real life to us who are not filled with rage at what we made out of life...
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#447816 - 04/15/08 07:28 PM Re: The Ford Boycott ... [Re: echo]
HeatPro Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 07/30/04
Posts: 28022
Loc: South New Jersey
More flaming trash from you. Now you're trying to pull diploma 'rank' to show your degrees are better than a working man. We have similar degrees and we earned them ourselves, whoopee. That's two Republican 'dirty-tricks' bigot tries in a row now. You still can't camouflage your ignorant statement:
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promote aetheism, gays, greenism/global warming fanaticism and you are an intellectual



No matter how many times you try to divert attention from that, it still comes back on the net to haunt you forever.

It is heartening to see that people who would have jumped on the chance a few years ago to join your flaming team this time aren't so excited to be seen as intolerant of intellectuals now. As said to Nestor, that is one problem of having few courses in human relations during a science and engineering curriculum.
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#447817 - 04/15/08 08:15 PM Re: The Ford Boycott ... [Re: echo]
xmy556a Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 12/04/01
Posts: 30218
Loc: Québec, Canada
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My education is real. Your phony "tolerance" is not. As I said- can't beat the message than beat the guy with verbal garbage. You are a hypocrite. You Made your living installing freon based systems and (my God!) soot belching heat systems even as you prattle on about my statement disparaging greenies. I guarantee I've had more formal education (BS Biology 198o, 3years organic and physical chemistry, ecology, etc; BSN 1983; MBA 1991) then you. I put myself through school- I know the value of education. I do not sit in a little cubicle or dingy little office taking out my passive/aggressive surges on whoever stumbles over my rantings. Stick to what you know- hvac/hydronics and leave real life to us who are not filled with rage at what we made out of life...



echo, typically people start spewing titles and diplomas when they run out out ammo otherwise or when the debate becomes emotional ... let it rest.

Oh and by the way, check out your then's and than's

"As I said- can't beat the message then beat the guy with verbal garbage. "


"I guarantee I've had more formal education (BS Biology 198o, 3years organic and physical chemistry, ecology, etc; BSN 1983; MBA 1991) than you."

Which reminds me of a really funny joke :
What's the difference between "for free" and "for nothing"?
Answer : Some people went to school "for free" and some went to school "for nothing".
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#447818 - 04/15/08 08:28 PM Re: The Ford Boycott ... [Re: xmy556a]
HeatPro Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 07/30/04
Posts: 28022
Loc: South New Jersey
His thought processes do provide amusement. His statement about his disparaging greenies is supposed to be a defense against prejudice:
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You Made your living installing freon based systems and (my God!) soot belching heat systems even as you prattle on about my statement disparaging greenies.



Well, duh. There were no other cooling and heating equipment to buy. What is his intent, that people shouldn't therefore have bought HVAC or have it installed and serviced so it saved energy? Would the solar systems I installed in the 1970's and 80's be something bad, so people shouldn't have HVAC? Perhaps they shouldn't have had education by intellectuals instead?

As you say:
Some people went to school "for free" and some went to school "for nothing".
But then, some people paid their way through and got little.
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#447819 - 04/16/08 03:09 PM Re: The Ford Boycott ... [Re: HeatPro]
EAP Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 09/23/03
Posts: 11037
Loc: The HEARTland - Ohio
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Continue to tell everyone to suspend critical thinking and you will eventually get the society royalty wants - dumb-down.




I agree with this comment. Many (most?) people in the world fail to "critically" think (on) the subject of the Bible. Of course, there are many who do not subscribe to the writings and that may be a factor.

My point was because people do not factor in the Bible (for whatever reasons) in their critical thinking that leads to all kinds of problems and issues.

Maybe if they did, they would think differently. I don't think one should discriminate against a person based on their lifestyle. But should they pander to it? Of course the crazy world we live in panders to all kinds of crazy stuff.

Was (is) this the fault of the Bible? I don't think so. The readers and followers of the Bible are exhorted to love the sinner while detesting the sin. That applies to all sinners and any manner of behavior that falls within the realm of sin as laid out in the Holy Bible.

Again, people (themselves) are not encouraged to pick and choose who against to discriminate. At least not in the Bible. That would be missing the message so-to-speak.
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