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But who in their right mind would insist on owning guns just because the constitution has it written that you can.

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If you dont practice a right, you may as well not even have it. But not just to "arm against a government rogue"...but a citizen rogue as well...

Atlantic City casinos are now under the rule that all smoking will be done in the 15% of the casino reserved for smokers.

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Are more guns owned by short bald, fat, insecure or ugly men with little penises?

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I think that there will be a sign stating that these men should go there to put a cigar in their mouths. Maybe not, they are there already.

THere is case law...i cant find it right now....THat "To Protect and To Serve" means to protect and serve the "community" not necessarily the individual citizen. It is up to each individual citizen to protect him/herself from those who mean harm...(no disrespect intended to the Blue Line) but cant rely on police to do it...as is most recently seen in Blacksburg, VA.

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but cant rely on police to do it...as is most recently seen in Blacksburg, VA.

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If many students/faculty were armed one of them could have stopped this guy before he killed more. I don't think there's any denying that..... but if students were allowed to carry guns, there would probably be many more shootings, probably not 32 deaths at a time, but I believe they would be more common.

The result would be guns would have to be forbidden on campus. (As they should be)

No, I can't prove any of this, but it sure makes sense to me.

If most people were armed, do you think there would be more or less shootings?

I have tried to keep my mouth shut about this, but I must nod my head to Scholastica's comment and A-Dog's agreement with it. A Los Angeles police captain wrote a litle book about how guns got their owners killed with their own guns. He cited cases from the L A police files and his message was that if the gun was not there, the rape or robbery would have left the victim alive.

There is no answer to madness. But even mad people get their ideas from society at large, whether we want to believe it or not. If one of my sons was shot dead, his suffering would be brief but mine would torment me all my remaining days. That insanity at Virginnia Tech stopped the beating hearts of wonderful young people. It seared the hearts of so many more who loved them, and for some, it may ruin their ability to love. So the tragedy is much greater. It is endless.

The whole argument is ridiculous.

Surely, a robbery happening in public would be discouraged by everyone carrying guns, much like the stupid robbers who decided to pick a bar that just happened to be frequented by off-duty police. A rape wouldn't usually occur with that many witnesses.

So the discussion pretty much centers on people using guns for protection in their own home, which is for the most part permitted. Considering the frequency of attacks and robberies in private residences, the frequency of timid, inadequately trained gun handlers increases, increasing failed attempt statistics.

Surely, a well-trained, calm defender waiting sitting on the floor with her back against the wall in her room while holding a gun would be far more difficult to surprise or overcome. A woman like Shatzi Balzof would be more likely to discourage such attacks - permanently.

The problem with guns comes from people playing hunter wandering around in the dark and calling out 'who's there?'; usually following the training courses in movies and TV to keep the plot going that illustrates how to get killed. In that case, being killed with their own gun is more merciful than enduring 'a fate worse than death.'

Jersey Boy, you make sense as always. I was not really talking anti gun although I am anti-gun and will not be derailed by any argument. I was trying to say how society manufactures nutcases like the guy who ruined hundreds of lives, the dead kids and everyone who will be tormented by those deaths. We, all of us, bear the weight of everything that happens. We create angry, hurt, vicious people who go out and hurt others. There are those who have frigged up brains, medical messes, yes, but most are manufactured psychos who are the product of their hurts and disappointments and, yes, weird desires.
How often is it a calm defender? How often is it a trembling hand? How often is it anger that would have gone into remission the next morning but at midnight was sore enough to get some one killed?

It is part of American life that guns have to be there. They are there and people get shot. What's the mystery?