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#358079 - 03/15/07 01:19 PM Winamp Fullscreen
RobHamilton Offline
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I am running a 16:9 ratio TV and would like to know how to get the video on WinAmp to display across the entire screen. When running it with HDMI,S-VHS, or component (using an external video card), it crops the ends. Have tried setting the computer to the TV's native resolution with no luck. Something I'm missing?
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#358080 - 03/15/07 01:32 PM Re: Winamp Fullscreen [Re: RobHamilton]
bubbadersh Offline
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Most widescreen TVs have a selector button or setting that lets you stretch out the input signal wider. It is meant to allow a non-widescreen 4:3 image fill out the wider 16:9 screen. That might explain what you are seeing.

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#358081 - 03/15/07 01:49 PM Re: Winamp Fullscreen [Re: bubbadersh]
RobHamilton Offline
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Unfortunately that's not the problem. My computer has a 16:9 native as well. I can stretch the output on the screen, but then lose resolution. (Outputting 1080i from my computer into component cables). The visualization is capable of 1920X1080... so not the problem there. I "should" be able to full screen the visualization on the TV set. It's cropping at the top and bottom unless I stretch it. This brings the resolution down to around 720ish I'm assuming.
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#358082 - 03/15/07 02:14 PM Re: Winamp Fullscreen [Re: RobHamilton]
bubbadersh Offline
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Oh. I thought it you meant it was cropping the sides.

All TVs have some overscan. Some TV's have over 10% overscan. Maybe that is what you are seeing. Many TVs have a maintenance mode which will allow you to adjust the amount of overscan.

My video card has TV out and I lose a bit of image when I play a video onto my standard TV. I think it is actually displaying the contents of the hardware video buffer. When I researched this issue via google I found it was a common issue. For a solution it seemes that some video boards have a way of adding a bit of border to the image to compensate for the TV overscan. My video board cannot seem to do this so I've learned to live with it.
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#358083 - 03/15/07 02:41 PM Re: Winamp Fullscreen [Re: bubbadersh]
RobHamilton Offline
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Thanks I made some adjustments and it's now working. The cards I am using have adjustments for everything (which they should at the price they were)
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#358084 - 03/15/07 02:45 PM Re: Winamp Fullscreen [Re: RobHamilton]
MTeator Offline
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Registered: 05/05/03
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If your TV if a RPTV, have the TV ISF calibrated, they'll remove most of the overscan. Won't ever get perfect like a direct view LCD or plasma set though.

My big set does 1920x1080 as well (Sony 70" SXRD) but there's a bit of overscan as well.

My LCDs are all 1366x768, but they display it just like a regular computer screen, exactly edge to edge.
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#358085 - 03/15/07 02:59 PM Re: Winamp Fullscreen [Re: MTeator]
RobHamilton Offline
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Wasn't in the TV. I have calibrated the TV myself using AVIA HD. Adjusted the CRTs manually, focused, adjusted red push, full convergence adjustments, static focus...I know it's not a full ISF, but for the price.. picture looks great.

Slightly off topic:

Personally going to be going with Plasma when I buy my new house this summer. After looking at several LCD vs Plasmas, I prefer what plasma has to offer. The new Pannys have around 60,000 hour half lifes now, so not concerned about that. I don't like the fact that there is a lot of artifacts on LCD when there is high speed motion and they just plain aren't big enough for my taste. Problem with using a front projection system is that I don't like the contrast. You can only get so much even when using a silver toned screen.
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#358086 - 03/15/07 04:03 PM Re: Winamp Fullscreen [Re: RobHamilton]
MTeator Offline
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Rob, check the Sony XBR SXRD's. The plasmas didn't compare in quality of picture. Granted this TV is in my basement so the light is controlled. I like knowing I can replace the bulb and have a picture like the day I bought it, unlike a plasma that loses brightness and contrast every day. It may have a 60,000 hour life, but it gradually dims over time until that 60,000 hour life expires.

Upstairs I have all LCD because they are all 42" or less. I have no ghosting issues, but the LCDs are all 8ms or less.

Front projection has great contrast in a light controlled room and a wall painted with flat white ceiling paint. I demod a Sony Qualia projector for a week, but it was $10K for the projector vs $5500 for the Sony 70". Since I had already spent about $10K on the speakers/etc, I went with the RP screen for now. I have the ceiling wired for the projector if I want to upgrade later.

I have a 42" RPTV that just blew up, so I MAY replace that one with a plasma because I might replace it with a 50" screen... however Sam's has a 60" Vizio plasma that is only three grand. I have a 37" vizio LCD in our bedroom and it's a great screen.
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#358087 - 03/15/07 04:31 PM Re: Winamp Fullscreen [Re: MTeator]
RobHamilton Offline
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Registered: 01/18/03
Posts: 1141
Quote:

It may have a 60,000 hour life, but it gradually dims over time until that 60,000 hour life expires.





That's it's half-life. (Period when it reaches half the brightness it had off the shelf)

60,000 hours/5 hours a day=32.7 years..and that is only half the brightness. Being you don't need to have the brightness all the way up, you can simply adjust for the loss now and then. I think that 32 years is a pretty decent amount of time to save up for a new one

I have compared the pictures of high end LCD vs comparably shelved plasmas.... The plasma has a much richer color, faster response time, darker blacks, better viewing angles (though the last has been highly improved).

LCDs do not "shut down" the pixels that are displaying black. Therefore, they still can only reach a VERY dark grey. This is my pet peeve. If I am in a pitch black room without a signal, I should NOT be able to see the screen. It should have NO light coming from it. But this is just my opinion...

Only reason I would buy LCD is if I was consistently gaming. Even though the LCD's reaction time is inherently slower, it has no risk of burn in.
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#358088 - 03/15/07 04:33 PM Re: Winamp Fullscreen [Re: MTeator]
bubbadersh Offline
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Registered: 08/15/02
Posts: 2277
Loc: Southern California
Since were already off topic ...

This is me in Las Vegas last year at the 2006 Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in front of a 102 inch plasma display. Would that be big enough for ya!



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